This discussion is going in circles in yet another thread. Way to go about this is I think a discussion for the LT and it wouldn't hurt to include admins and mods in it too

. We have to agree on 1 thing (unless it has already been agreed upon and I don't know) and that is the direction. Do you stick with strictly No Downloads as the name suggests or is it no downloads except for maps and no bullshit advertisement/sound packs/skins/other useless add-ons.
My stands is this: There are other popular servers that are called no downloads with custom maps and they are very successful, TWC comes to mind. I mean I can see why its difficult to change as the current formula has been successful for the server but as with most things, you have to evolve to survive. We can all agree that we have reached saturation point which means it isnt a server with just a couple of members and randoms. We have a good number of regulars that want to stick with our server because they like the settings, the atmosphere and other players but they want something new to keep them interested. Is Bremen the right choice? I think so I can quote my poll from the previous post and Furi was online too to see it. Supply is more commonly known but walljumping would be a problem. Bremen is very easy to learn, cant be completed in 2 min like fuel dump or battery, small download and just a good overall map imo. There is a downside that Matt has mentioned. The first part of the map can be a little cramped for a 8v8 but that's just something we'll have to see for ourselves.